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Chairwoman: Judith Schofield, 4, Bottoms, Crag Vale. 01422 885173
Vice Chairman: John Street, Calder Cottage. 01706 378043
Secretary: Michael Farrell, 41, Hollingworth Road, Littleborough. Tel. 01706 370154
Treasurer: Peter Jackson, 8 Chelburn View, Littleborough. Tel. 01706 373112
Membership Secretary: Lincoln Jackson, 1 Moorfield View, Shore. Tel. 01706 370542
Minutes Secretary: Chris Wilkinson, 3, Fair View, Littleborough. 01706 374020
Editor:Anne Lawson, 81, Todmorden Road. Tel. 01706 379604
Dan Docker, 93 Church Street, Littleborough. Tel. 01706 372001
Don Pickis, Lightowlers. 01706 378849.
Betty Pickis, Lightowlers. 01706 378849.
Jill Roberts, 10 Townhouse Road. 01706 377382
Rae Street, Calder Cottage. 01706 378043
Joe Taylor, 136a Market Street, Whitworth. 01706 344711
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The Editor and Staff wish to thank all those people who have contributed to this edition with a special thanks to those who assemble and distribute the Newsletter and to K. Parry who designed the cover for use on LCT Newsletters in the mid 1970's.
WELCOME to the autumn edition of the Littleborough Civic Trust Newsletter! Now that the autumn seems to be well and truly upon uus after the long, hot summer months, it's time to start thinking about activities that will get the olf circulation going and make us forget about he nights that are quickly draing in. So ......
Help is always welcome at the Tree Nursery, off Todmorden Road on the right hand side just after the Gale Inn.
We meet on the first Saturday in the month, from about 10 am to 12 noon. No experience is necessary!
Just bring some enthusiasm and a thermos flask!
This year we will be staging a clean-up of the area around Coronation Walk, Gale. (past the Gale Inn, on the right hand side of Todmorden Road, near the Tree Nursery).
All help is more than welcome, whether you're 6 or 60, so dig out your wellies and old gloves, and we'll see you down there!
Refreshments will be provided. Meet 10 am onwards.
Our own Dan Docker will be giving a talk on the twelve months he spent with his young family in the wilds of the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia.
If you have read Dan's 'Letter From America', which was published in the spring edition of the Newlsetter, and also in the Rochdale Observer, then you will know that this is a talk most definitely NOT TO BE MISSED !!!
Brenda Sutcliffe, a local sheep farmer, has been campaigning for the last couple of years to bring about a change in the laws regarding sheep-dipping, following disturbing symptoms, and sometimes death, in those who have prolonged exposure to the chemicals used. The dip is thought to attack the central nervous system and with chronic exposure to the chemicals used, the peripheral nervous system is also affected. About 10% of people who suffer chronic exposure die from the effects.
Claims that there are dangers from the use of dip, and the questions that arise also from the disposal of used dip - the farmers have been advised to simply dispose of the dip on their land - have been dismissed by the appropriate authorities.
Some years ago, mad cow disease hit the headlines and inquiries lead to the banning of feed made from dead sheep. Could there be a link? According to Brenda, the symptoms of those exposed to sheep dip are very similar to the symptoms of mad cow disease - it is the nervous system that is under attack.
On 27th September, Channel 4 broadcast a programme which claimed that the ‘widespread use of organo-phosphate pesticides (that) is responsible for BSE in cattle and, alarmingly,(he links it) to neurological diseases in humans.‘
Food for thought ???
I've come a long way in t'last fourteen month
But I've still got a fair way to go.
I was quite imbecilic, some might have said,
Others just thought I was slow.
I'm not on my own, I've reason to think
There's a lot more that's dafter than me,
An‘ if y'll just listen, I'll spell it all out -
When yuv heard it yull have to agree.
The problem arose when we had t'dip sheep
In all sorts of c**p, d'ye ken?
An' when us had finished, we all fell about
Then they made us all dip 'em again!
We turned for advice to the great VMD
An' left it for tham to sort out.
They did us all proud - they said ‘dip 'em again'
An' told us the law not to flout!
I said 'Bog off wit' law an' don't come 'ere again -
I don't want your sort in mi house.
That bottom gate's now called my front door.'
At that they went quiet as a mouse.
Well, when I felt better, I thought I'd complain
So straight to the top I did go.
I started wit’ Queen, then Prince Charles, d'ye ken,
John Major, Gummer and Co.
By gum I did try but it all came to nought.
I kept sharpening mi pencil an' pen.
I got letters back - well they had t'respond -
Bless me, they said 'dip 'em again!'
Well then I discovered the great VPC
Were going to gather once more.
We're in with a chance now - they're the Experts these men
I'll be quiet now an' let mi hopes soar.
Well, it were worse 'n waitin' for Christmas,
Waitin' for VPC
To ponder, pontificate and tremble
'Cos we all want t'know, d'ye see.
Wiz wonderin' if we've bin a-poisoned,
An' one dasn't disagree with them
'Cos they're edicated people,
An' we're just ordinary men.
I thinks t'miself when I'm sat 'ere -
I does that sometimes, d'ye ken?
I wonder 'ow we're all still livin' when
We're governed bi such edicated men.
There's a bit 0' me sez I'm barmy,
But tisn't my fault, d'ye see.
I just stood for an hour o'er sheep dip
An‘ it didn't do a lot for me.
Now I'm left an‘ am sat here wonderin'
An‘ am waiting for VPC
To tell us if wiv all bin poisoned,
Then I'll get on wi' makin' tea.
VMD = Veterinary Medecines Directorate. This is a government body that advises the VPC of adverse reactions.
VPC = Veterinary Products Committee. This is a government body that licences products.
Following on from the ‘DATES FOR YOUR DIARY', a little bit of background information for those not familiar with Coronation Walk. In the early 1950's, Fothergills decided that they would provide improved sports facilities, for hockey, football, cricket and so on, and began to prepare land oppsite Gale, on the right hand side of Todmorden Road. A walk of trees was planted between the land and the dye works off Todmorden Road, so that, having descended the steps and crossed the river, one found oneself in an avenue of trees. Unfortunately, the project was abandoned, but the planted trees grew, and today, give a very pleasant walk through to the footbridge over the railway. The dye works is no longer there, and the tree nursery is situated on part of the land that would have been designated for the sports field. Since the coronation took place in 1952, the walk was known as Coronation Walk.
It is not often obvious to members of the Civic Trust the sort of work that is undertaken on behalf of the membership by members of the committee. Some of the projects currently in hand are not moving forward as quickly as we would like them to, but we continue to press the council for improvements or decisions nevertheless. For example, the ‘Welcome to Rochdale' sign in the square near the station is due to be upgraded or replaced - the content of the sign has more or less been agreed, and there is a craftsman able to carry out the work, but no decision has been made regarding a date for installation. This particular project has been pursued now for nearly two years, but the council hasn't been able to resolve the situation...
Rely on planners to save our trees
Correspondance and discussion has been ongoing regarding the trees at Ferrand Lodge (the new development off Todmorden Rd), since before building work began.
The trees are covered by a TPO (Tree Preservation Order), and several have been damaged during building work and since, presumeably by or on the instigation of residents. Where there is a TPO, any work that is to be carried out near the tree has to be notified to the council. Clearly this has not been the case, since he council has taken no action regarding damage that has already taken place, nor has it taken any action to ensure that the trees are not subject to further interference. It is unlikely that some of the trees will survive the damage sustained.
However, we continue to press for action....
What is obviously required in some instances, is further pressure from Joe Public; YOU can have some impact, by backing the Civic Trust with action! Contact any member of the committee to find out how YOU can make a difference!
For over 100 years the Big Tree at the junction of Shore Rd and Furness Avenue has stood there, a silent sentinel watching the world go by. In its time it has seen many changes in our way of life, much for the better, some unfortunately for the worse. Originally it was on Shore Rd, close by the garden wall of the house which was demolished when Furness Avenue was opened up in 1928. The engineers of those days decided that it should remain in the place where it had grown for thirty years or more.
People grew fond of it as it expanded in girth, and generations of children have played under it, met their friends under it and sheltered from the sudden downpour of rain. It became invaluable when giving directions to ‘ strangers to the area. Turn right at the Big Tree, go 100 yards past the Big Tree or turn round by the Big Tree would usually get people to the place they wanted.
Now it seems that it is doomed. Although to the untrained eye it would appear that if a tank ran into it the tank would have the worst of the encounter, the experts have decided that it is in imminent danger of falling down and the tree fellers are champing at the bit with their axes and chain-swas at the ready, to hack it down. The poor thing in the last few years of its life has not been treated fairly. It has been starved of water, its roots have been cut through when various pipes and cables have been laid within a few inches of its trunk and it has been poisoned by the tarmac laid down when the road has been resurfaced. To many people of Shore it will be like the passing of an old friend, and many hope that someone somewhere can work a miracle and give it treatment to revive it if only for a few more years.
This event took place on 12th August, in the middle of that lovely hot summer that seems a lifetime away! By all accounts of those who attended, the evening was a great success, and thoroughly enjoyed by all. Thanks go to all who helped make the evening go so well: to Peter Jackson, the inspiration behind it, and to you for turning out to support us. We are hopeful that similar events may become a regular feature.
The committee send warmest wishes to both John Street, Vice-Chairman, and Peter Jackson, Treasurer, for a very speedy recovery from recent illnesses. Both play an important role within the Littleborough Civic Trust, and we hope that they will both be back on their feet very soon.
For those of you who are following the windfarms campaigns, planning permission has been granted by Calderdale Council for the erection of a 'temporary 40m mast and anemometer for a period of two years‘. This will be sited east of Blackstone Edge Reservoir and west of Rochdale Road, Ripponden. It may be a delaying tactic, or the thin end of the wedge, to the proliferation of the huge turbines already in operation and scarring our moorlands......
Sunday AUGUST 6th: Meet Littleborough Square 9.30am
Leader - John Hindle
Sunday AUGUST 20th: Meet Littleborough Square
Leader - Geoff Sutcliffe
Upper Worth Valley
Sunday SEPTEMBER 3rd: Meet Littleborough Square 1.45pm
Leader - Michael Farrell
Starring - Wardle - High Lee Slack
Sunday SEPTEMBER 17th: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm or Thornham Lane 2.00pm
Leader - Tim Dawson
Tandle Hill Circular
Sunday OCTOBER 1st: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm or Elbut Lane, Birtle
Leader - Joe Taylor
Sunday OCTOBER 15th: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm or Todmorden Market Car Park 1.45pm
Leader - Geoff Sutcliffe
Bride Stones and Orchan Rocks
Sunday OCTOBER 29th: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm
Leader - Michael Farrell
Sunday NOVEMBER 12th: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm or Nuttall Park, Ramsbottom 2.00pm
Leader - Geoff Sutcliffe
Summerseat - Nangreaves
Sunday NOVEMBER 26th: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm
Leader - Tim Dawson
Humber Farm - Lydgate - Leach
Sunday DECEMBER 10th: Meet Littleborough Square 1.30pm or Lawflat 2.00pm
Leader - Geoff Sutcliffe
Stid - Lobden - Healey Stones
Sunday DECEMBER 24th: No organised walk. Members interested may contact M. Farrell (370154) for possible walk.
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Editor: Anne Lawson
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